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Best areas to invest in multi-family units

Question:

Hi Tony,
Your presentation at SDCIA on Tuesday was great! Thank you for sharing your insight.
I have a question. I am currently in the process of building my real estate investment biz (I am using your free starter kit to help me). My plan is to form an entity, (my atty recommnds C corp) and start acquiring 4 to 8 unit apartment buildings to build residual positive cash flow. My next phase will be to invest in Fix and Flips.

My question is; In what area should I start acquiring apartment buildings?

I currently have my eye on San Diego, Las Vegas, Pheonix, Orlando and Tampa based on research that suggests that these are strong rental markets.

Would you advise against any of these areas and are there other areas that should also consider?

Thank you in advance for your input.
-GT

Answer:

Hi GT, and thank you for your question.

The fast answer is… I don’t have a clue. The obvious reason is presently I’m not investing in multi-residential income properties in those markets. Therefore, I simply have no need to know. Any “opinion” I would share would be just that, an “opinion” — hardly worth your time to hear.

Presently I’m focused on buying 1 to 4 residential properties and whenever possible I prefer them to ALL be detached single family dwellings with their own small private yard areas.

Also, since we handle our own property management, I am presently only buying within an hour drive from my office (located in the Antelope Valley), so my opinion of any of your preliminary markets is really not valid.

However, if you started completing the Free Starter Kit, then you already know the first thing you must deal with is Choosing a Target Market (and knowing it better than anyone else.)

The choosing of a specific place (or geographical location) to start buying apartments (or anything for that matter) is very strategic and unfortunately ALWAYS entirely up to YOU to decide. The reason for this should be obvious — it’s simply YOUR money, credit, time and effort.

You have to go through the process (learning curve) of HOW TO identify a location that is going to feed you the type of property, tenants and cash flow at the prices you think you will need to be profitable.

As far as my or anybody’s “opinion” as to whether one state or city is better or worse than another… well, honestly I would have to go through exactly the same steps I suggest that you take in the Free Started Kit to arrive at the same conclusion, so why repeat the effort?

Seek information and advice from investors who already own the same type of property you are interested in, and other real estate professionals (i.e. appraisers, insurance agents, etc. — not just the brokers and agents who specialize in that type of property who stand to get paid when you buy and not when you don’t — although honestly, they are an important part of your initial investigation.) The key is that you consult MANY individuals who have first hand experience of that market not just opinions they’ve read or heard from somebody else.)

In the past, I have purchased apartments of all sizes, shapes, types and locations in many Target Markets. I have used both a buy, fix & flip to other long-term hold investors model, and a buy, fix & hold long-term model as well.

Since I do not know your level of experience in the business I will caution you about a few things (if I may…)

1. Try to stick with properties as close to where you are physically at the beginning as this will help you to manage your tenants and/or your managers more effectively and with minimal stress and expense. (NO ONE WILL EVER MAKE DECISIONS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST AS WELL AS YOU WILL.)

2. Do all your research about the area and such, but remember you do not have to know EVERYTHING before starting to make offers. Use your contingencies effectively to both buy yourself appropriate time to fully investigate the properties, and to also withdraw from the deal should you discover it’s not what you want.

3. If you will need financing, make it an integral part of your initial research to personally visit with lenders LOCAL to the Target Market you choose. Prior to placing offers, make sure you have ALL the elements of accomplishing your goal firmly in hand.

4. Remember, properties for sale are everywhere, but a “Great Deal” is seldom found just by looking. More times than not, it’s created by your efforts, your understanding of your Target Market, as well as, the elements of doing whatever you decide to do as an investor (and the depth and breadth of your relationships within the business community you select as your Target Market.)

5. Should you decide to invest out of state, please do your due diligence slowly, carefully and deliberately. Be clearly aware of all the Pros and Cons (especially the CONS!) 😉

On the other hand, if you are an experienced investor and are already aware of the specific things I’ve mentioned above, I can tell you this – I would personally stay clear of the Vegas market since I have done research and find it very transient. I personally like the Orlando market (and Florida in general) if you can deal with the gun toting citizens (tenants), senior drivers and the occasional hurricane.

We hope we have been of good service.

Thank you for your question.

Your friend always,
Tony

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Flipping Short Sale Properties

Question:

Tony,
What is the best way for me to learn shorts? There are many in my area—some on mkt for LOTS of days. 😮

I would like to flip them to an investor but am clueless how that all would work—margins, time of assignment—bird dog it. Totally clueless.

Thanks!
ML

Answer:

The short answer is… by doing them.

The long answer is for the most part, Short Sales, are simple if you plan on holding them as long-term rentals and complicated if you want to do anything else (i.e. wholesaling them to other investors.) This is actually a very loaded question because there are too many directions you could go with Short Sales. (Too many moving parts!) Some may end up being profitable in the short run, but problematic in the long run. The problematic part is that if you are hoping to tie up Short Sales without initially closing the purchase escrow and then wholesaling them to other investors (again without closing the initial purchase escrow) you may find yourself being interviewed by an FBI agent about the fact they may consider your actions to be a fraudulent transaction where you are intending to defraud a federally insured lender. Some investors ignore this issue and deal with Short Sales as if they were an REO, and wholesale them without question. Some believe that if they disclose that they are purchasing the property with the intent of re-selling it with a profit that this is sufficient and absolves them from future legal consequences. Keep in mind that we are not talking about what’s fair or about your actual intent, we are simply discussing the possibility of your actions being interpreted by the Feds as fraud. Now, I’m sure there are many investors involved in flipping (wholesaling) as well as retailing Short Sales that have not (to date) experienced any problems whatsoever, however, I took the time to call the FBI and personally interview two agents. After spending two hours with them, the bottom line was when I posed the question, “if I purchase a Short Sale and re-sell it immediately to another investor for a profit, could that be construed as fraud?” Their response, was “absolutely, yes.” So therefore, as I previously mentioned, I only buy Short Sales to hold as rentals for at least 12 months before re-selling them to anyone. Although you may find on the internet plenty of information/advice/suggestions from “investors” on how to flip or wholesale Short Sales, I strongly caution you to do your own due diligence so that you are aware of the potential risk you might be taking which could come back to you bite you years after you’ve spent your Short Sale profit. Keep in mind we pursue Short Sales on a daily basis and buy them often. Many can be negotiated profitably without much trouble. The easiest way to learn and understand what’s involved in the complete process of a Short Sale (from beginning to end) is easily and accurately learned by taking a class offered by a local title company which are typically offered almost every month to Real Estate Agents and anyone else who wants to attend, typically for free or for a nominal fee.

We hope we have been of good service.

Thank you for your question.